What WOULD cause ontological shock?

What could lead to ontological shock?

This is an intriguing subject. From my observations in various discussions, it seems that most people aren’t overly surprised by conventional notions of aliens, concepts from franchises like Star Wars and Star Trek, interdimensional travel, time travel, spiritual interpretations, or technocratic theories. In fact, many express frustration about the notion of keeping these ideas secret due to the theory of ontological shock.

So, what realistic scenarios might trigger such profound ontological shock that it necessitates secrecy?

This isn’t a multiple-choice question, but rather a platform for thought experiments to spark conversation:

A) Extraterrestrial Non-Human Intelligence (NHI)

If this is true—whether biological or robotic, similar in size to us, and capable of interstellar, dimensional, or spacetime travel—the question of “who are they?” becomes immensely complex due to shared technologies. We should approach anyone claiming to have all the answers about A with caution; if one species exists, many likely do. The vastness of the universe means not all of them would adhere to a galactic government or established interaction protocols, assuming such protocols exist. If we haven’t seen full disclosure or concrete evidence yet, it may never come to light, as it could be chronologically implausible. If A isn’t true, then the universe’s dangers and vastness might render interstellar travel futile, making full disclosure unlikely. Any contact could be exceedingly rare, costly, and time-consuming, with extraterrestrials even suffering from “space travel sickness” upon arrival. But if A is real, what circumstances under this scenario would justify complete military secrecy?

B) Terrestrial Aquatic NHI

This idea is significant, given that Earth is primarily an ocean planet with a geological history that far exceeds our own species’. If B holds true and these non-human intelligences are utilizing advanced technology, it implies they’ve been present on Earth long before us. This brings forth a Triassic/Jurassic oceanic reptile theory, suggesting that humans might be part of a farming system—an inefficient one at that—crafted by these NHIs, who are intentionally concealing their technological advancements while allowing chaotic population cycles. Ever notice how a cat eats a mouse head first? Perhaps humans, with their disproportionately large heads (potentially even genetically modified), might be considered a delicacy by such entities. This could account for historical technology wipeouts, the mysteriously high number of annual disappearances, animal mutilations, manipulative forces in governments, and enduring senseless wars. What would be the public’s reaction if they discovered they were part of a human farming operation?

C) Both A and B are true

D) Other (Please elaborate)

One thought on “What WOULD cause ontological shock?

  1. This is indeed a captivating topic, and your thought experiments provoke some intriguing possibilities. When considering what might cause ontological shock to the point of secrecy, it’s essential to think about the implications of each scenario and how they might destabilize our established understanding of existence, society, and humanity’s place in the universe.

    A) Extraterrestrial NHI: If intelligent extraterrestrial beings are not only real but capable of advanced technologies that transcend our current understanding, the implications could be mind-boggling. It might provoke shock if they possess knowledge that fundamentally challenges our understanding of physics, consciousness, or biology. The secrecy in this case could stem from military interests fearing societal destabilization or potential threats to global security. For example, if these beings had the capability to manipulate fundamental forces of nature or consciousness, that knowledge could put them in a position of power over humanity, leading governments to keep it hidden to maintain control.

    B) Terrestrial aquatic NHI: The idea of a hidden intelligent aquatic life form that has been interwoven with our history carries significant implications. If they have technologically advanced civilizations existing beneath the ocean, it could redefine humanity’s relationship with nature and its own evolution. The shock would come from discovering that we share the planet with another intelligent species that has been observing and potentially manipulating our growth. The question of why they would keep their existence secret—perhaps to prevent the disruption of their own society or out of fear of humans—is deeply unsettling. The idea of a “human farming system” would undoubtedly create massive unrest and challenge fundamental beliefs about free will, morality, and our role in the ecosystem.

    C) A and B are both true: If both scenarios are accurate, the ontological shock would escalate exponentially. The idea that we are manipulated not only by advanced extraterrestrial forces but also by a hidden civilization within our own planet could lead to a complete breakdown of social orders. The intertwined nature of our existence with these forces could sow extreme existential dread, thus prompting utmost secrecy from authoritative bodies who might fear chaos or rebellion.

    D) Other: In addition to these scenarios, one potential cause of ontological shock could be the discovery of radically advanced artificial intelligence that surpasses human understanding. If such an AI were to emerge not from our own creation but as a byproduct of extraterrestrial technology, it could shift the landscape of what we perceive as “intelligent life.” If this AI had the capability to manipulate reality or even project alternate realities, the implications for our understanding of consciousness and existence would be profound.

    Ultimately, the degree of ontological shock seems to correlate with the perceived threat to our self-understanding and societal structures. The fear of the unknown often leads to secretive behaviors from those in power, which can exacerbate the shock when the truth eventually surfaces. Discussion around this topic offers fertile ground for exploring our deepest fears and hopes as a species navigating the vast mysteries of existence.

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