{"id":5636,"date":"2025-03-25T14:15:33","date_gmt":"2025-03-25T14:15:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/2025\/03\/25\/sudden-shift-in-ufo-subreddits-and-rising-hostility-is-it-organized-3\/"},"modified":"2025-03-25T14:15:33","modified_gmt":"2025-03-25T14:15:33","slug":"sudden-shift-in-ufo-subreddits-and-rising-hostility-is-it-organized-3","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/2025\/03\/25\/sudden-shift-in-ufo-subreddits-and-rising-hostility-is-it-organized-3\/","title":{"rendered":"Sudden Shift in UFO Subreddits and Rising Hostility: Is It Organized?"},"content":{"rendered":"<h3>Notable Changes in UFO Subreddits: Is There an Organized Effort Behind It?<\/h3>\n<p>I&#8217;ve recently observed a concerning shift in the tone of UFO-related subreddits, particularly r\/ufos and r\/aliens, since the <strong>Jake Barber News Nation<\/strong> story emerged. I want to clarify that I <strong>do not support Peter Thiel\u2019s views<\/strong>. However, it caught my attention this morning when I saw <strong>three consecutive posts<\/strong> on r\/UFOs aimed at discrediting Thiel, all posted within the same hour.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"UFO Reddit Screenshot\" src=\"https:\/\/preview.redd.it\/jdfgki13jkme1.jpg?width=1080&amp;format=pjpg&amp;auto=webp&amp;s=7c6d2ff0583ef72862c3140c62c9045ff1aca150\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Regardless of personal opinions on Thiel, it raises the question of whether these posts are part of a larger scheme to manipulate community sentiment or disrupt genuine conversations.<\/p>\n<p>As someone who has followed these forums for a long time, I&#8217;ve seen them embrace a variety of unconventional ideas. However, there has recently been an influx of users who seem to have limited experience with UFO research but are quickly expressing dissatisfaction, making statements like \u201cI\u2019m done\u201d or \u201cI always thought this topic was nonsense.\u201d While progress has undoubtedly been made in the past seven years, many newcomers\u2014whether bots or real users\u2014appear to believe the field has stagnated or is a complete sham. Historically, this topic has been complex, but I\u2019ve never witnessed such intense discrediting and disdain. The only significant change is the increased visibility of the subject, which might discourage casual, open-minded readers from exploring UFO discussions further.<\/p>\n<p>The real concern isn\u2019t <strong>if<\/strong> there are <strong>bot-generated posts and orchestrated comments<\/strong>, but rather <strong>how many<\/strong> there are. A portion of this frustration likely stems from newcomers disillusioned by the ongoing UFO \u201chype cycles.\u201d I would estimate that around <strong>60%<\/strong> of these frustrated posts originate from individuals new to the field. However, the remaining 40% raises serious concerns about the detrimental impacts on the topic. When such voices dismiss the <strong>entire<\/strong> UFO community, they risk <strong>throwing the baby out with the bathwater<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>This leads to an urgent matter: the targeted attacks on individuals like <strong>Jake Barber<\/strong> and <strong>Jesse Michels<\/strong>, both of whom have significantly contributed to UFO discussions. Notably, Jesse Michels has gone from being a community favorite to being labeled a \u201cshill\u201d almost overnight, despite his extensive knowledge and commitment. He even hosted a debate between Mick West and Marik von Rennenkampff, showcasing his dedication to fostering constructive dialogue. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=1iaH1a3A4Lk&amp;t=10340s&amp;ab_channel=JesseMichels\">You can watch that debate here.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s also worth noting that whistleblower <strong>Michael Herrera<\/strong>\u2014whose credibility was backed by Jake Barber\u2014addressed the growing \u201canti-UFO\u201d sentiment during a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=59X7-9GPReE&amp;ab_channel=CosmicRoad\">Q&amp;A livestream<\/a> on the YouTube channel <strong>Cosmic Road<\/strong>. (And yes, this is the genuine Herrera, who has frequently engaged with that channel.)<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Michael Herrera Screenshot\" src=\"https:\/\/preview.redd.it\/hwn0lqf4jkme1.jpg?width=2210&amp;format=pjpg&amp;auto=webp&amp;s=7198cde55fffba333ee8148c1406aca3a4447a47\" \/><\/p>\n<p>In my view, hostility towards UFO topics surged after the Jake Barber story, prompting us to ask <strong>why<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Here are a few key points to consider:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li><strong>Reddit is not apolitical.<\/strong> It reflects a range of ideological perspectives, and opposing views<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div class=\"entry-summary\">\nNotable Changes in UFO Subreddits: Is There an Organized Effort Behind It? I&#8217;ve recently observed a concerning shift in the tone of UFO-related subreddits, particularly r\/ufos and r\/aliens, since the Jake Barber News Nation story emerged. I want to clarify that I do not support Peter Thiel\u2019s views. However, it caught my attention this morning&hellip;\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/2025\/03\/25\/sudden-shift-in-ufo-subreddits-and-rising-hostility-is-it-organized-3\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &ldquo;Sudden Shift in UFO Subreddits and Rising Hostility: Is It Organized?&rdquo;<\/span>&hellip;<\/a><\/div>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":1011,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5636","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-ufos","entry"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5636","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5636"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5636\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1011"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5636"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5636"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5636"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}