{"id":5370,"date":"2025-03-25T13:53:24","date_gmt":"2025-03-25T13:53:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/2025\/03\/25\/im-tired-of-hearing-that-im-off-topic-for-discussing-literal-unidentified-flying-objects-over-military-bases\/"},"modified":"2025-03-25T13:53:24","modified_gmt":"2025-03-25T13:53:24","slug":"im-tired-of-hearing-that-im-off-topic-for-discussing-literal-unidentified-flying-objects-over-military-bases","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/2025\/03\/25\/im-tired-of-hearing-that-im-off-topic-for-discussing-literal-unidentified-flying-objects-over-military-bases\/","title":{"rendered":"I\u2019m tired of hearing that I\u2019m \u201coff topic\u201d for discussing literal unidentified-flying-objects over military bases."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m getting increasingly frustrated with being told that my discussions about actual unidentified flying objects over military bases are &#8220;off topic.&#8221; As a range fouler expert, I focus on incursions at locations like Langley, Wright-Patterson, LLNL, Pantex, Colorado (2019), Plant 42, and the UAPs over training ranges\u2014commonly referred to as range foulers.<\/p>\n<p>Yet, every time I bring these incursions up, I\u2019m met with responses suggesting this isn\u2019t the right avenue for such discussions\u2014comments about drones and questions about my presence here if I&#8217;m not discussing aliens.<\/p>\n<p>I genuinely don\u2019t comprehend this mindset. It seems that as the reality of these incidents becomes more apparent, people are less inclined to engage with them. We have UFOs hovering over military installations, and it feels like there\u2019s a lack of interest\u2014even from those within the UFO community.<\/p>\n<p>Each time there&#8217;s a new revelation, I find myself disappointed to see that discussions on these significant incidents barely break 300 upvotes, while yet another thread about &#8220;2027&#8221; or the &#8220;laudable building&#8221; skyrockets to the top.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not here to support controversial UFO personalities. Don\u2019t misunderstand me; I appreciate the scrutiny they face. But sometimes it feels like this subreddit is more invested in discrediting figures like Lue Elizondo or Ross Coulthart than in genuinely exploring the topic at hand. The level of focus here on these personalities reminds me of how some Joe Rogan fans obsess over him. I\u2019m fully on board with moving past these personalities; what I\u2019d rather avoid is constantly rehashing the same tired drama.<\/p>\n<p>After the NYT article broke, the conversation about UFOs was dominated by the echoing refrain, &#8220;UFOs don&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s aliens!&#8221; This mantra effectively shut down any meaningful discussion, often acting as a quick fix to feel intellectually superior. <\/p>\n<p>However, the conversation didn&#8217;t pivot to more plausible explanations. Those who used to claim these were likely government or adversarial crafts seem to have faded away.<\/p>\n<p>It brings to mind a quote by LBJ about the need for people to have someone to look down on. Here, it feels like there are only two camps: believers in aliens and those who mock that belief. I thought this binary would eventually fade away over the years, but it hasn\u2019t. I\u2019m not interested in beliefs; I want to focus on the verified events that have taken place. It seems there\u2019s a lack of interest in the specifics\u2014like what type of \u201clight aircraft\u201d flew over Plant 42 that night.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div class=\"entry-summary\">\nI&#8217;m getting increasingly frustrated with being told that my discussions about actual unidentified flying objects over military bases are &#8220;off topic.&#8221; As a range fouler expert, I focus on incursions at locations like Langley, Wright-Patterson, LLNL, Pantex, Colorado (2019), Plant 42, and the UAPs over training ranges\u2014commonly referred to as range foulers. Yet, every time&hellip;\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/2025\/03\/25\/im-tired-of-hearing-that-im-off-topic-for-discussing-literal-unidentified-flying-objects-over-military-bases\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &ldquo;I\u2019m tired of hearing that I\u2019m \u201coff topic\u201d for discussing literal unidentified-flying-objects over military bases.&rdquo;<\/span>&hellip;<\/a><\/div>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":172,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5370","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-ufos","entry"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5370","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5370"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5370\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/172"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5370"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5370"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5370"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}