{"id":5359,"date":"2025-03-25T13:52:21","date_gmt":"2025-03-25T13:52:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/2025\/03\/25\/if-somebody-makes-an-extraordinary-claim-or-makes-verbal-testimony-who-is-the-burden-of-visual-proof-on-the-claimants-or-those-who-need-more-than-testimony-to-believe\/"},"modified":"2025-03-25T13:52:21","modified_gmt":"2025-03-25T13:52:21","slug":"if-somebody-makes-an-extraordinary-claim-or-makes-verbal-testimony-who-is-the-burden-of-visual-proof-on-the-claimants-or-those-who-need-more-than-testimony-to-believe","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/2025\/03\/25\/if-somebody-makes-an-extraordinary-claim-or-makes-verbal-testimony-who-is-the-burden-of-visual-proof-on-the-claimants-or-those-who-need-more-than-testimony-to-believe\/","title":{"rendered":"If somebody makes an extraordinary claim, or makes verbal testimony, who is the burden of visual proof on, the claimants or those who need more than testimony to believe?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>When someone makes an extraordinary claim or shares a testimony, who bears the burden of proof: the claimants or those who require more than just words to be persuaded? This question has been on my mind after an unusual interaction with another user in this forum.<\/p>\n<p>Consider the recent reports of unusual object and drone swarm sightings in New Jersey. I requested a photo that aligns with the descriptions provided by multiple witnesses, who described everything from drone swarms to bus-sized drones to anomalous objects.<\/p>\n<p>To date, I haven&#8217;t seen any images that match the hype or descriptions surrounding these events. Instead of providing evidence, one user shifted the burden to me, insisting I needed to show visual proof that these sightings had a mundane explanation.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s not difficult to conclude that the burden of proof lies with those making extraordinary claims. If I claim to have seen something outlandish in the sky, I can&#8217;t just demand that others prove my assertion wrong. For instance, if I say, &#8220;I saw a flying saucer,&#8221; and someone questions my credibility\u2014asking if it might have been a plane or a satellite\u2014it doesn&#8217;t support my claim if they fail to provide images of such alternatives. My initial assertion remains equally plausible regardless of their evidence.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve noticed a lot of resistance from people when it comes to the demand for evidence regarding sightings, especially as discussions around more speculative topics arise. <\/p>\n<p>So my question is this: When you make a claim, is it your responsibility to provide evidence, or do skeptics need to supply proof that what you\u2019re stating isn\u2019t true? Otherwise, does the original, fantastical claim automatically gain credibility by default? To me, this seems like a matter of basic common sense that is often overlooked.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div class=\"entry-summary\">\nWhen someone makes an extraordinary claim or shares a testimony, who bears the burden of proof: the claimants or those who require more than just words to be persuaded? This question has been on my mind after an unusual interaction with another user in this forum. Consider the recent reports of unusual object and drone&hellip;\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/2025\/03\/25\/if-somebody-makes-an-extraordinary-claim-or-makes-verbal-testimony-who-is-the-burden-of-visual-proof-on-the-claimants-or-those-who-need-more-than-testimony-to-believe\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &ldquo;If somebody makes an extraordinary claim, or makes verbal testimony, who is the burden of visual proof on, the claimants or those who need more than testimony to believe?&rdquo;<\/span>&hellip;<\/a><\/div>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":801,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5359","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-ufos","entry"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5359","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5359"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5359\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/801"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5359"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5359"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5359"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}