{"id":4273,"date":"2025-03-11T16:53:25","date_gmt":"2025-03-11T16:53:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/2025\/03\/11\/what-would-cause-ontological-shock-2\/"},"modified":"2025-03-11T16:53:25","modified_gmt":"2025-03-11T16:53:25","slug":"what-would-cause-ontological-shock-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/2025\/03\/11\/what-would-cause-ontological-shock-2\/","title":{"rendered":"What WOULD cause ontological shock?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>What could potentially lead to ontological shock?<\/p>\n<p>This is an intriguing topic. From my readings of various comments, I&#8217;ve noticed that most people don\u2019t seem particularly unsettled by common concepts surrounding aliens, space sagas like Star Wars or Star Trek, interdimensional travel, time travel, spiritual ideas, or technocratic societies. In fact, many express frustration over the notion of these ideas being kept under wraps due to the theory of ontological shock. <\/p>\n<p>But what realistic scenarios could truly create such an ontological shock that they would require secrecy?<\/p>\n<p>While this isn&#8217;t a multiple-choice question, I offer some thought experiments to spark discussion:<\/p>\n<p>A) <strong>Extraterrestrial Non-Human Intelligence (NHI)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>If we assume this is correct, whether biological or robotic and similar in size to us, utilizing technology for interstellar, dimensional, or spacetime travel, the question &#8220;Who are they?&#8221; becomes incredibly complex due to the potential exchange of technology. We should approach anyone claiming to know the definitive answers about A with skepticism. If one extraterrestrial species exists, it stands to reason that many others could also be capable of visiting us by now. Given the universe&#8217;s vastness, it&#8217;s impractical to assume that all species would adhere to a galactic governance or interaction protocols (assuming such protocols exist). If we haven\u2019t experienced full disclosure or seen concrete evidence by now, it\u2019s likely we never will because, chronologically, it shouldn&#8217;t exist. Conversely, if A is false, the sheer challenge posed by the universe&#8217;s vastness might mean we&#8217;ll never gain full understanding, making contact rare, costly, and exceedingly time-consuming. Extraterrestrials might even suffer from some form of travel sickness upon arrival. Yet, if A is valid, what specific aspects of this scenario would necessitate top-level military secrecy?<\/p>\n<p>B) <strong>Terrestrial Aquatic NHI<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>B presents a compelling case considering we inhabit an oceanic planet with a geological history that far exceeds our own species&#8217;. If true, and if these NHIs possess advanced technology, it implies they have been present long before us. This could support theories suggesting a Triassic\/Jurassic oceanic reptile scenario, where we could be seen as subjects in a human farming system\u2014an inefficient one at that. It may appear that these NHIs are deliberately concealing themselves and withholding technology from us while allowing cycles of overpopulation and depopulation to unfold. It\u2019s akin to how a cat might eat a mouse head first: humans might possess abnormally large heads (potentially from genetic modification) that could be seen as a delicacy to such ancient beings. This notion could illuminate phenomena like historical wipeouts, the alarming number of missing persons, animal mutilations, the pervasive influence of dubious individuals in government, and the chaos of incessant wars and flawed systems. What might happen if the general public learned they were part of a human farming operation?<\/p>\n<p>C) <strong>Both A and B are true<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>D) <strong>Other (please explain)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s dive into the possibilities!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div class=\"entry-summary\">\nWhat could potentially lead to ontological shock? This is an intriguing topic. From my readings of various comments, I&#8217;ve noticed that most people don\u2019t seem particularly unsettled by common concepts surrounding aliens, space sagas like Star Wars or Star Trek, interdimensional travel, time travel, spiritual ideas, or technocratic societies. In fact, many express frustration over&hellip;\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/2025\/03\/11\/what-would-cause-ontological-shock-2\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &ldquo;What WOULD cause ontological shock?&rdquo;<\/span>&hellip;<\/a><\/div>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":2398,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4273","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-ufos","entry"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4273","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4273"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4273\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/2398"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4273"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4273"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thataintnoplane.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4273"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}